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zigs

how can i improve my site

Post by zigs » Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:22 pm

www.headtrends.com

seems im not having much luck
i cant get my site searchable by keywords anywhere
is my site not good enough?

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Post by grelmar » Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:59 pm

I actually made a comment about this in your website review before I saw this post.

Here's a hint, a BIG hint.

Run your site through Lynxview to see what most search engines see when they look at your site. Google and a lot of other search engines are ignoring meta tags more and more, because people got to good at "spoofing" them to get improper engine placement. Now, the engines mostly just read the content of your page and analyze that for placement.

http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html

This is what google sees when it looks at your page:
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Your Online Source For Sportswear Featuring Lebron James, Mitchell and
Ness, High School Legends, Oakley, Fox Racing and more...

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Post by JimBb » Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:05 pm

Thought of the same when I saw your post earlier. I miss text. A small 20-word description on every page would be a good start, and alt-tags for every image. Forget about keywords, very few search engines use them. These days you shouldn't write for a search engine, but write for your audience. Make it easy for them, like with Alt-tags for those that cannot or don't want to see images (think of speech readers), some text, and links to everywhere, and look: search engines like you better too!

Also, try to end up with your link in relevant pages. Don't spam, don't post your link just everywhere, but in sites about caps, jerseys, sports, sport-clothing, you know better which than I do. The reason is that if pages have an equal value due to their content (like Alt-tags and text and titles and so), the number of relevant pages linking to you can make the difference between you and the competition.

Jim

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Post by Ron » Wed May 12, 2004 3:30 pm

yeah i agree wit jim u gotta have a lot of keywords and missplelings describing ur site. i get like 10-15 new visitors per day cause i put a lot of keywords and a good description that atrracts people.

and i have a lot of words on the fron t page! i ran my site through that scan and it came wit huge results. i thought mine would be much smaller.

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Post by Youri » Fri May 21, 2004 4:20 pm

JimBb wrote:Thought of the same when I saw your post earlier. I miss text. A small 20-word description on every page would be a good start, and alt-tags for every image. Forget about keywords, very few search engines use them. These days you shouldn't write for a search engine, but write for your audience. Make it easy for them, like with Alt-tags for those that cannot or don't want to see images (think of speech readers), some text, and links to everywhere, and look: search engines like you better too!

Also, try to end up with your link in relevant pages. Don't spam, don't post your link just everywhere, but in sites about caps, jerseys, sports, sport-clothing, you know better which than I do. The reason is that if pages have an equal value due to their content (like Alt-tags and text and titles and so), the number of relevant pages linking to you can make the difference between you and the competition.

Jim
and you posted it on bravenet huh :P
Btw if you look at my site im not seeing the meta tags i've placed, did i do anything wrong or what? ik thought it would show the tags too. i now also know that my links arent sufficient enough for some bots so i have to alter it..
my link is http://members.lycos.nl/banddisturbed/

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Post by JimBb » Sat May 22, 2004 5:32 am

Your metatags are on your frameset page, which is sort of useless. Remember that the googlebot will try to analyse the current page (in this case the frameset page), and see a bunch of keywords and absolutely no content.

You can fix that by putting some info about your page in the <noframes>...</noframes> section (should come after the last closing tag of the frameset). The advantage of that is that search engines that cannot handle frames (ilse.nl for example, unless they changed their code over the last year) now do see something useful to index.

Jim

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Post by Guest » Mon May 24, 2004 4:09 pm

yeah there are metatags on the frameset page, but that frameset page also says the robot to follow the index. on the pages it will meet then are also metatages, and those aren't displayed either.
The advantage of this is that my site gives better results in google, because every page contains some info that isn't displayed at the index. The disadvantage is that i have visitors who only vieuw one part of my website because the index isn't loaded and there's no navigation....

I don't get my index very often if i try too search for my own site to see how it's listed, but that will improve when i paste a <noframes></noframes> part??

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Post by Ron » Mon May 24, 2004 8:26 pm

it actually wil improve it. Because some internet browsers such as old versions dont have the ability to process new html data such as frames. Use the noframes tag and make a link to the same site only with "no frames"! lol

i hope that helped

ron

Youri

Post by Youri » Tue May 25, 2004 9:09 am

yeah it did help, i now know that i'm going to get the noframes part wich i had completely forgotten and another navigation instead of loading the index...
thnx!

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